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KaraLa Gaonkar Question 9 1 Jan 30 2008, 2:10 PM EST by aspatriarca
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Gaonkar reveals that Gross, in his rhetorical analyses of scientific texts, greatly privileges textual analyses: “Even when Gross is negotiating larger themes—analogy in science, taxonomic language, style in biological prose, the arrangement of scientific papers, the peer review process, etc.—it is the textual materials that invariably command his attention” (61). Such an approach begs the question of whether or not this method could continue to succeed in a world in which scientific “texts” as Gross knew them might cease to exist. Is Gross’s model useful today? Will it continue to be useful? Or does Prelli’s method of “topical invention” seem a more appropriate methodological tool for the 21st Century (65-73)?
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jcover Gaonkar Question 6: A Canon? 1 Jan 30 2008, 1:38 PM EST by danleelawson
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Gaonkar says that he Vickers believes that rhetoric “has a recognizable traditional core” (38). Does rhetoric have a Canon? How does the idea of a canon relate to the idea of a hermeneutical inquiry? What I’m thinking of here is North’s chapter on “The Critics” where he talks about in Composition the “very strong concomitant impulse to create a Hermeneutics to establish and interpret a specifically Composition-based canon” (117). Thus, North seems to relate the idea of a hermeneutics to having a canon. How does that fit with what Gaonkar is saying?

North, Stephan. The Making of Knowledge in Composition: Portrait of an Emerging Field. Upper Montclair, NJ: Boynton/Cook, 1987.
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jcover Gaonkar Question 15: Kairos 1 Jan 29 2008, 9:52 PM EST by amyr6531
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One interesting point that Gaonkar makes several times is that rhetorical analysis assumes the intentionality of the rhetor. He says on p. 48 that “the rhetor is seen (ideally) as the conscious and deliberating agent.” He references several classical rhetorical ideas here, but I wonder if these concepts all fit with the idea of intentionality, including kairos. Carolyn Miller talks in depth about kairos in her article “Opportunity, Opportunism, and Progress: Kairos in the Rhetoric of Technology.” With the idea of kairos and timing, there seems to be an element that is outside the rhetor’s control. The rhetor does have to take advantage of the timing, but there are also external factors that allow for the discourse to be received a certain way depending on the timing. Miller seems to suggest that the concept of kairos is based on both of these things. Does analysis based on rhetoric, then, automatically assume the agency of the rhetor? To what extent can rhetoric be used to talk about external factors that contribute to the success of failure of a text?

Miller, Carolyn. “Opportunity, Opportunism, and Progress: Kairos in the Rhetoric of Technology.” Argumentation 8.1 (1994): 81–96.
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